Bruce Lee- der Praktiker vor seinem Ausflug in die Philosophie

[Andreas Mertsch]

"Bruce took the knowlegde acculumated from Yip Man and began to innovate, began to change, began to add things. We were all streetfighters: Jesse Glover, Ed Hart, Pat Hooks, Leroy Garcia...We all had background for taking care of ourselves, we were all very physical, very tough. Bruce surrounded himself with these types of individuals, trying to digest, break down, really trying to determine each individual's skills - you know, his strong points: his Karate skills, Judo skills, boxing skills, and just basic streetfighting. And it was from this particular experience that he began to develop his own fighting style. When I say his own fighting style, I don't mean Jun Fan or JKD - not at all ! I mean his own personal, private fighting style which he was not interested in teaching or showing anyone else! He was just developing it for himself. And we never really realized this, because Bruce was very selfish when he taught. By that I mean that he didn't care about students. He didn't care wether you got good or not. He only wanted you to be good in a certain thing so that he could work against it. The fighting period was where he just wanted to develop himself. He really didn't think in terms of school at that time. He did only think in terms of 'Bruce Lee - the fighter'. He wanted to go back to Hongkong and beat all of his seniors in Wing Chun...."
- James W. DeMile, Quelle: "Bruce - Legend of a fighter" (Film-Biographie)


Weiterhin DeMile:

"To me "Bruce's personal fighting style" refers to his search for the fewest techniques possible to take care of the maximum situations he may encounter. It did not have anything to do with any style. He explored and discovered what worked best for him and once attained moved on to create a method to generate an income so he could move away from Ruby Chow's. I believe his efforts to develop JF and JKD were based on his goal of getting into the movies rather than evolve his martial arts. His techniques became more visual and open, rather than tight and almost invisable. I cannot say with absolute certainty way Bruce did what he did, only offer my opinion, based on my experiences with him."

- "The early parking lot period was unstructured and with out direction. Bruce was not trying to teach as much as develop training partners to enhance his own skills. He would start and stop teaching in the middle of presenting a new technique because he decided that it was not practical. He admitted he was not a teacher and was only teaching for his own benifit. If we got anything from it it was what we could take from it. So a months training may be thrown out because of a new idea. Very few of the early students stayed with him because everything was to disjointed. That is one of the main reasons that his early students evolved differently. Each had his own interpretation of what Bruce presented. Later he needed to make money,to move out of Ruby Chow's, so had to have something organized and structured in order to charge money. Hence, Jun Fan was created.

James DeMile"

Quelle: http://pauljbax.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~1768.asp

[Formless16]

Super ...danke für die Texte. Ich finde James DeMiles Aussagen immer wieder sehr interessant und ich denke es steckt sehr viel Wahres in dem was er sagt.

[Andreas Mertsch]

Bruce Lee hat sein persönliches Handswerkszeug aber weiterentwickelt, ohne dass dies etwas mit seiner Fernseharbeit zu tun hatte. Die Filme kamen später.

Ich denke, die Wahrheit liegt mal wieder in der berühmten Mitte, aber deswegen sagt Jim DeMile ja auch lediglich "I believe...."

Grüße

[Jackson1]

De Mille beschreibt ganz deutlich das Bruce bereits eine "THEORIE" besaß ... (aus den "inneren" Kung Fu Stilen) ...

nun machte er sich auf die Arbeit um das umzusetzen ... nix anderes macht z.B. Kernspecht heute mit Blitzdefence ... (mal am Rande ein neueres Beispiel) ...

Ebenso könnte man "andere" Lösungen für die Probleme liefern die vorhanden sind ... (Theorie) ...

Was ich sagen will ist ...

Wenn man die Theorie nicht kennt, dann kann man das alles nicht verstehen ...

Man muss wissen was der Hintergrund der Handlung ist ! (welche Theorie steckt dahinter?)

siehe hier ...

"To me "Bruce's personal fighting style" refers to his search for the fewest techniques possible to take care of the maximum situations he may encounter. It did not have anything to do with any style.

dieser Geschichte liegt eben diese Theorie zugrunde ...

oder hier ...

He would start and stop teaching in the middle of presenting a new technique because he decided that it was not practical.

sieht man wie er es abgleicht mit der "Theorie" und es verwirfft ...

[Trinculo]

Zitat von Jackson1 De Mille beschreibt ganz deutlich das Bruce bereits eine "THEORIE" besaß ... (aus den "inneren" Kung Fu Stilen) ...

Was spricht für Dich dafür, dass es eine Theorie aus den inneren Stilen war? Von denen hatte er wohl nicht so viel Ahnung.

[Formless16]

Wenn wir schon bei James DeMile sind .Nochmal für die ,die es noch nicht gelesen bzw. gesehen haben:



Bruce Lee's Temple of the Unknown

http://www.kampfkunst-board.info/for...-demile-13469/

Wing Chun Do

[Jackson1]

Was spricht für Dich dafür, dass es eine Theorie aus den inneren Stilen war? Von denen hatte er wohl nicht so viel Ahnung.

vieles ...

[Formless16]

"I could already fight, but at a neanderthal level. Bruce and his unique approach to developing fighting concepts and principles was fascinating to me and I was more interested in training with him than going to school, but had no choice. I also really liked training and hanging out with Jesse, Ed, LeRoy and some of the other early students. We were all sort of neanderthal and impressed how someone could make us all look foolish in our attempts to punch his lights out, which I really tried to do a few times. My memory is still clear about Bruces fighting skills and I still say today that he was the best street fighter I have ever known. But my appreciation of him was not because he was a great fighter, but it was how I learned to think and evaluate concepts and principles in an unbiased way, free of labels or preconceived opinions. My ability to do introspection in my training also could be applied to my life challenges. Bruce's greatness is not from his fighting skills as much as his creative contributions that opened doors for all of us to learn and grow. To many people are still looking at Bruce's finger rather than where he was pointing. One of the main problems in interpreting what Bruce said or did was because he did it mainly for himself rather than for other people. He died to young. He was collecting, sorting and creating and still looking for answers. Anyway, these are my thoughts."


James Demile

Quelle:http://pauljbax.forumco.com/topic~TO...hichpage~2.asp

[Andreas Mertsch]

Anbei das gleiche Video-Dokument:

Wing Chun Do

Grüße

[DieKlette]

Zitat von Jackson1 De Mille beschreibt ganz deutlich das Bruce bereits eine "THEORIE" besaß ... (aus den "inneren" Kung Fu Stilen) ... nun machte er sich auf die Arbeit um das umzusetzen ... nix anderes macht z.B. Kernspecht heute mit Blitzdefence ... (mal am Rande ein neueres Beispiel) ...