JKD in Germany

[SteFanJKD]

as I told you I consider myself very dedicated to JKD. I love all aspects of JKD. This includes Technique, tactiquea and most importantly its application in physiocally training it.

I also love the philosophy part of JKD, I love the theatrical part of Bruce Lee, his movies. I love the collecting part and the whole "legend of Bruce Lee"


Thisi is why i also have an instrest in how the JKD situation looks like in every country I spend time on a Forum. I would appreciate If someone could list have the JKd School situation in germany looks like. It would also be intresting to know if there is someone who is known for his/hers intrest in Bruce Lee as an Icon and is more famous as collector.

Here is a clip that illustrates my intrest in JKD, when its comes to other things than actually Training its techniques

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[SteFanJKD]

[jkdberlin]

There might be no complete list on the internet anyway, but I guess this: JKD Schulen & Vereine is a rather good start when it comes to Jun Fan Gung Fu, Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, JKD Concepts, Original etc.

[SteFanJKD]

Thank You, I will chech the site.

But what i was looking for was your personal oppinion, what first comes to you mind, some honesty without a fuss. For example. When I think about the JKd situation in Sweden what first comes to mind is

1. JKD Concepts under Rich tuchi in Malmö. He has done the right thing, he is authoriced

2. PFS in Norrköping, a paul Vunak instructor, never met him, but he might be one of those people who take an apprentice instructor fron Vunak and never see hiom again and market themselves year after year as a authoriced Vunak instructor.

3. Tim tacket in Stockholm, well, he has organiced one seminar with Tim, he himself says he is a lameco Instructor with JKD instructor, yet stil he is listed as Tim tackets Instructor in Sweden.

4, hardgrave Lineage in östersund. These never answer my emails, they train in traditional Kung Fu suits with coloured sashes and everything

5. Johan skålberg in Gothenburgh, He has the same Vunak Apprentice istructor certificae as s many have, but he teaches 100% kali

Lets say I move to germany. What would be your sponatneous advice who is certified and authentic and who is only using the JKD name for their own benefit. From only Internet knowledge my impression is that pretty much all JKD in Germany can be traced back to Udo muller I think his name is.. Am I correct, is he the one who brought JKD to germany. Another name that I consider a 2big name is Frank ....../something, sorry Frank for not remebering you surname.

SteFan

[SteFanJKD]

I went through the list. Almost 60 schools! Germany is of course a bigger country than sweden, but even if you put all the Scandinavian countries together we are not even near to the number of JKD schools you have in Germany.

The obvious question is

How manyof these 60 Scholls represent the "JKD Concepts" approach and how many represent the "Jun Fan JKD" approach?

/SteFan

[salurian]

Zitat von SteFanJKD Thank You, I will chech the site. But what i was looking for was your personal oppinion, what first comes to you mind, some honesty without a fuss. For example. When I think about the JKd situation in Sweden what first comes to mind is 1. JKD Concepts under Rich tuchi in Malmö. He has done the right thing, he is authoriced 2. PFS in Norrköping, a paul Vunak instructor, never met him, but he might be one of those people who take an apprentice instructor fron Vunak and never see hiom again and market themselves year after year as a authoriced Vunak instructor. 3. Tim tacket in Stockholm, well, he has organiced one seminar with Tim, he himself says he is a lameco Instructor with JKD instructor, yet stil he is listed as Tim tackets Instructor in Sweden. 4, hardgrave Lineage in östersund. These never answer my emails, they train in traditional Kung Fu suits with coloured sashes and everything 5. Johan skålberg in Gothenburgh, He has the same Vunak Apprentice istructor certificae as s many have, but he teaches 100% kali Lets say I move to germany. What would be your sponatneous advice who is certified and authentic and who is only using the JKD name for their own benefit. From only Internet knowledge my impression is that pretty much all JKD in Germany can be traced back to Udo muller I think his name is.. Am I correct, is he the one who brought JKD to germany. Another name that I consider a 2big name is Frank ....../something, sorry Frank for not remebering you surname. SteFan

There is also a lineage under Sifu Bustillo in germany with instructors in Schwerin, Bad Münder, Lübeck, Gießen, Berlin, Frankfurt and for sure some I don´t recognise.

[jkdberlin]

Zitat von SteFanJKD Another name that I consider a 2big name is Frank ....../something, sorry Frank for not remebering you surname.

Who is this guy?

[re:torte]

Zitat von SteFanJKD I went through the list. Almost 60 schools! Germany is of course a bigger country than sweden, but even if you put all the Scandinavian countries together we are not even near to the number of JKD schools you have in Germany. The obvious question is How manyof these 60 Scholls represent the "JKD Concepts" approach and how many represent the "Jun Fan JKD" approach? /SteFan

most of them (nearly 95 %) are Concept- Schools

[SteFanJKD]

Who is this guy?

Frank Burczynski !

There is also a lineage under Sifu Bustillo in germany with instructors in Schwerin, Bad Münder, Lübeck, Gießen, Berlin, Frankfurt and for sure some I don´t recognise.

I got banned from asking this question ona Forum. There was aguy who critisiced my Jun Fan JKD a lot. All of a sudden he said he was a Full Instructor under Bustillo, after 2-3 seminars. I asked what it took tobecome a full Instructor, and I was banned since they said it was a personal insult on this person.

I still haven't got an answer. What it said on the certificate was that he was a Full Instructor at the MIB Academys Training programme. He claimed to be a Full Instructor in JKD since JKD is part of the IMB academy Curriculum.

I would be glad if anyone had information about this, what kind of a certification system does Richard Bustillo have, does he has one for his school, the IMB academy, and one for his private students in JKD, kali etc.

most of them (nearly 95 %) are Concept- Schools

Who would you say are the representatives of the 5% that is left, that would probably be Jun fan JKD.

/SteFan

[angHell]

didn't checked it again? Look in the signature of jkdberlin, the founder of the KKB and the author of a book about JKD...

[FCVT]

Zitat von SteFanJKD Frank Burczynski ! /SteFan

you´re talking with him... haha

[SteFanJKD]

Look in the signature of jkdberlin, the founder of the KKB and the author of a book about JKD...

What can I say, I have never been intrested in finding out who I am communicating with. It was intresting that I had been talking on the Fiorum with this Frank guy

I am only intrested in JKD, I am intrested in JKD Concepts and Jun fan JKD, I am intrested in the knowledge I get from discussion with people from jun fan and Concepts. This is what I use the Internet for. To be honest, the Internet world is so far from reality in my world that i don't care about the names and persons in this world.

But now I know that jkdberlin is this frank guy, and still it is no near reality to have discussion on Internet with this person, I could care less who I am talking to, I get no whatsoever personal realtionship or friendship feelings from neither Frank or jkdberlin. The only things that is real to me is actually meeting another peron in real life. Yeas, I know, I am old... Idon't understand that Internet is the reality of oday

Who knows, maybe we will meet in my world one day. When that day comes I hope that the person people think I am on Internet will be the same that I am in Real Life.

From experience I know that I am not to popular on many Forums I write, they call me a besserwsser, bruce Lee wannabe, cult leader etc. I have no problem with this because these comments are 100% from people who have never met me personally, in real life... where it counts

/SteFan

[Tangkapan]

Zitat von SteFanJKD Frank Burczynski ! I got banned from asking this question ona Forum. There was aguy who critisiced my Jun Fan JKD a lot. All of a sudden he said he was a Full Instructor under Bustillo, after 2-3 seminars. I asked what it took tobecome a full Instructor, and I was banned since they said it was a personal insult on this person. I still haven't got an answer. What it said on the certificate was that he was a Full Instructor at the MIB Academys Training programme. He claimed to be a Full Instructor in JKD since JKD is part of the IMB academy Curriculum. I would be glad if anyone had information about this, what kind of a certification system does Richard Bustillo have, does he has one for his school, the IMB academy, and one for his private students in JKD, kali etc. Who would you say are the representatives of the 5% that is left, that would probably be Jun fan JKD. /SteFan

I know who you are talking about.
But i think you should contact Richard Bustillo directly to get an answer.. Its always better to go to the source instead asking around for 3. hand oppinions in a forum. It might look a bit suspicious.
And by the way its IMB not MIB, but i think you just had a typing error :-)

[salurian]

Yes, better go to the source directly.
To become IMB full instructor you need to go through the student levels and recommended to be accepted for apprentice instructor, then associate instructor and after that full instructor. That is the way to go.

[SteFanJKD]

IMB, At least I got it rigt one time, that is 50% correct! Those who know me knows that it is above average

Yes, better go to the source directly.

Well, I am not that intrested, it was only one of those things I think about. it is the same with paul Vunak. I have heard stories about how you pay for a weekend Privat training and get certified after that.

I think that Karate and other Traditional school has a better system. No way you could fake a Black belt , open Karate school and say you are a Black belt instructor.

First of all even someone who has never trained karate , even a 6 year old would see that you don't know Karate. second of all, the karate community would put a stop to it by asking for a official certificate authoriced by the all japan karate Federation.

I wish JKD would be like that, then we would have "No Fuss" in the JKD world.

/SteFan