Stefan Nikander JF/TWJKD Clip

[cbJKD Wilfried]

YouTube - junfanJKD/Sweden;Stefan nikander

gruss wilfried

[Bill]

Zitat von cbJKD Wilfried YouTube - junfanJKD/Sweden;Stefan nikander gruss wilfried

Cool Vid Wil, stammt es von vor seiner Erkrankung oder war er beim Dreh (wieder) fit?

[cbJKD Wilfried]

Hi,
vermutlich davor. Weiss ich aber nicht genau.
Gehört auch nicht so hier her. Zur Zeit hat er wohl wieder damit zu tun, neue Untersuchungen etc.
Wir wünschen ihm alle das Beste

[cbJKD Wilfried]

Stefan Nikander ist an board.

Er kann Aufschluss über TWJKD/interna geben.

SteFan sagt, er hat deutsch mal in der Schule gehabt wird aber wahrscheinlich eher englisch posten müssen.

Gruß Wilfried

[stagediver]

Schöner Clip - motiviert! Danke für's posten!

Gruß
sd

[SteFanJKD]

Hello,

Ich habe nicht Deutche gesprochen Im funf und zwanzig Jahre, and that was how far I got before I did not find the words to continue writing in the official language on this Forum

I hope that you feel it is okey for me to write in English. The Reason I write on this Forum is to perpetuate my teachers JKD, TWJKD and at the same time help Linda and Shannon Lee perpetuate Bruce Lee's teachings of Jun Fan JKD. Ted Wong has sadly passed away and there are already people using the name TWJKD to their own benefits.

I hope to clear out who is who in the Ted Wong family, what ted wongs JKD is all about.

We have the same situation in ted Wongs JKD that we had almost 40 years ago with Bruce Lee's JKD. All of a sudden everyone who trained with Ted is his student or instructor. It is the same in Bruce Lee's JKD, people who trained at his schools consider themselves as his students though it clearly state Dan Inosanto as their Instructor on their certificates, and not BrucE Lee. This makes them Dan Inosanto students and not Bruce Lee students, doesn't it.

A new and updated official Instructors list in TWJKD is on the making and will presented soon. This will be the first step to put an end to all the fortune seakers who are now misusing TWJKD or their connection to Ted Wing for their own benefit and not for the benefit of TWJKD.

If you have any questions about either TWJKD or any subject about JKD, please feel free to ask anything.

As I understand it Jun Fan JKD has been represented in germany, but never TWJKD. I also know that you have very good instructors in the dan Inosanto Lineage of JKD. I hope that this is a beginning of a cooperation with the ted Wong Lineage of JKD. Lets leave jun fan/Bruce lee's JKD out of the discussions and simply share experiences and knowledge from our own lineage in JKD

The fact is that these two people are the only two people authoriced and certified in the art of JKD personally by Bruce Lee. I am fully aware what the history shows about different JKD lineages are trying to communicate and share knowledge. I think that the problem is that we are talking about Bruce lee's JKD, not the JKD of our own teachers in JKD, their interpretation about what they learned from Bruce Lee, their instructor.

My ambition is not to start one more Forum with this attitude, my ambition is to share my knowledge and experience in my choises in my JKD choice. I am simply offering my knowledge and experience to this Forum so that the members on this Forum get more knowledge about different JKD approaches.

I would like to end this with the german word "tschuss", but I don't have that german U with two dots or that "double s sign". The thing is, this word pronounsed sounds exactly like the word "kiss" in swedish. This is the attitude I hope we will create, "hugging and kissing", sharing our similarities and differences in JKD without any "fuss"

/SteFan

[jkdberlin]

Hi Stefan

Welcome to the Forum. Hope to read from you more soon.

Greetings

[Gin Lai]

Hey Stefan,
welcome on board! Hope all is well!
Just curious, who´s going to decide who is getting on the TWJKD instructor list, and who´s not?

Hälsningar,
Michael

[SteFanJKD]

Michael, you taking the time to write in swedish was a very nice gesture. Thank You.

Ted Wong was not a person who ofiicially gave out a lot of certificates, but he kept record in a small book on the status of all his students. It will be ted wongs family that has the final desicion about who is who. They have his official list and I am pretty sure that he has talked with his wife about his decisions in his JKD, I know my wife knows exactly what id going on wiithing my JKD family even though she is not active herself.

Teds wife and his children are gathering information from Teds closest students, we have a specific Forum where only the closest students of ted Wong are planning the future of TWJKD. Teds wife is part of the discussions in the Forum.

I cannot make any comments just yet about who of those who sponsored ted on seminars are considered his "closest" students. But there are some of the "big names" connected to Ted Wng that are not part of the special group trusted to plan the future of TWJKD.

I will let you all know as soon as we have an official List..

I would be very intrested in getting oppinions on the current TWJKD situation in Europe and around the world.

When you hear the name ted wong, who do you consider the "big names" and why? This will help the future of TWJKD since I can take this information with me and present it to Teds wife, his children and rest of the students of TWJKD

/SteFan

[Gin Lai]

Thanks for the clarification, Stefan!
Good to hear that Krina and the TW family are actively taking care of his legacy!

Don´t know about the actual TWJKD situation here in Europe. Up ´til now, all seems quite, and those that were close to Ted Wong are still in shock about his recent passing.
Among others, I personally know, and am buddies with Jari Nyman, Richard Torres, James ter Beek, George Sirak and Andrea Torres, but I ain´t familiar with their exact connection to Ted Wong and the TWJKD lineage. I guess that (and some other things) are going to be revealed in the near future.
Time will tell...

Best,
Michael

[SteFanJKD]

Absolutely, time will tell and uptil then we just have to wait patiently.

I think that there is no harm in me sharing my personal oppinion on what ted wongs mission was.

Ted was personally asked ny Linda to start to share his knowledge in JKD. Since Linda had chosen the name Jun fan JKD to her agenda of perpetuating JKD Ted used this name on what he was teaching.

I think that many people turned to Ted Wong for the same reasons I did. That is wanting to learn Bruce lee's JKD. But the more I studied with Ted I started to see what e was teaching as something I had never seen before.

Sure, I saw the On Guard that looked like the On Guard in Bruce Lee fighting method, but I saw details that could not be seen in most of the pictures.As the years went by I saw people still looking more for Jun fan JKD than what actually Ted was teaching.

Even today I can spot a person that I consider teaches and trains TWJKD and those who still teaches and train jun fan JKD under ted Wongs guidance

I will look through my files and see if i can find some pictures to post that illustrates the difference betw3een jun fan JKD and TWJKD

/SteFan

[SteFanJKD]

What I was looking for when started to train with ted was simply to learn JKD. Bruce Lee wrote

The root of JKD
1. On Guard
2.Footwork
3. Postures in relating force

This together with the principle of simple, direct and non -classical approach and the daily Decrease, not Daily increse principle guided me.

So what i saw set TWJKD apart from other interpretations of JKD, or Jun fan Gung Fu was his On Guard. Bruce said that "all JKD starts and ends in On Gurad", and this is the reason why the On Guard is so important in TWJKD.

So lets look at some pictures on the On Guard and go from there



As we see from the picture in the left low corner it is the typical JKD On Guard used, The picture on the right corner is the evolution later in his development, when he had closed his school and worked privately with Ted



Here is my own evolution with the On Guard, dating from early 1990 in karate suit while crosstraining karate with JKD Concepts. Rest of the pictures are as I am learning TWJKD.

Here are some other On Guards that is worthwhilw looking at when choosing your own JKD





Personally I have devoted a lot of time Training and studying difrent JKD approaches. I spent 4 years in JKD Concepts giving it 100% before I went into "original JKD. Here are some of my personal notes and research material on the On Giard

[angHell]

thanks for sharing your material!

I'm not a JKD-man, but interested.
Am I right that the later on guard is more broad (wide) than before?

[SteFanJKD]

Actually, it is the other way around.- I would say that this pictures illustrates the "classical way" of showing how the JKd On Guard Looks like



On the left we se the Lead To-Rear Heal Powerline that is taught as the JKD Fightingstance. What ted was taught by Bruce was the Triangle principle in the JKd On Guard, as we can see from the Ted wong Students teri Toms book.


Here are two more pictures in the subject.





/SteFan

[bäm!!]

Zitat von SteFanJKD Michael, you taking the time to write in swedish was a very nice gesture. Thank You. Ted Wong was not a person who ofiicially gave out a lot of certificates, but he kept record in a small book on the status of all his students. It will be ted wongs family that has the final desicion about who is who. They have his official list and I am pretty sure that he has talked with his wife about his decisions in his JKD, I know my wife knows exactly what id going on wiithing my JKD family even though she is not active herself. Teds wife and his children are gathering information from Teds closest students, we have a specific Forum where only the closest students of ted Wong are planning the future of TWJKD. Teds wife is part of the discussions in the Forum. I cannot make any comments just yet about who of those who sponsored ted on seminars are considered his "closest" students. But there are some of the "big names" connected to Ted Wng that are not part of the special group trusted to plan the future of TWJKD. I will let you all know as soon as we have an official List.. I would be very intrested in getting oppinions on the current TWJKD situation in Europe and around the world. When you hear the name ted wong, who do you consider the "big names" and why? This will help the future of TWJKD since I can take this information with me and present it to Teds wife, his children and rest of the students of TWJKD /SteFan

hi Stefan!

sorry but since Ted's passing things start falling appart. When you read the recent arguments on the Bax forum I really got to be honest I don't give a rat's ass on who will be Ted's successor. Some of Ted's apparently high ranked students are some of the fatest bastards i've seen in martial arts. they grab for power but look as if they grab for the next hamburger.

honestly on this one it will be who can influence who the most and not who is the most skillful guy in TWJKD. period.