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T. Stoeppler
02-02-2011, 10:14
Ich habe das grad auf emptyflower gelesen, sehr sehr traurig:

Thepassing Of A True Mster & Gentleman, Erle Montaigue - Emptyflower® Internal Martial Arts - Taiji Bagua Xingyi (http://www.emptyflower.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8617)

Egal was manche IMAler von ihm gehalten haben - mir hat er (auch durch die Emails, die ich mit ihm gewechselt habe) in meinen Anfängen sehr weitergeholfen.

RIP

Gruss, Thomas

pilger
02-02-2011, 10:29
OH, eine traurige Nachricht.

Er war nicht mein Lehrer und ich kannte ihn nicht. Nur zwei Bücher von ihm habe ich zu Hause und ein paar Videos gesehen.

Egal, denn es trifft auch mich.

Ich wünsche ihm alles Liebe, egal wo er jetzt gerade ist!

Pilger

jkdberlin
02-02-2011, 13:27
Oh, das ist traurig. ich habe eine Menge seiner Bücher und seiner Videos...mir hat sein Zeug gefallen...

john_doe
02-02-2011, 14:22
Eine traurige Nachricht, in der Tat.

Er mochte ja auf viele Leute polarisierend gewirkt haben, aber ich fand immer interessant, was er schrieb oder sonst so von sich gab.

Möge er in Frieden ruhen.


john_doe

Klaus
02-02-2011, 15:15
Bei ihm fand ich interessant, dass seine Erläuterungen und seine Fähigkeiten nicht so recht zusammenpassten, denn schnell war er.

R.I.P.

Jochen Wolfgramm
02-02-2011, 15:24
Sehr traurig. Wieder jemand, der viel zu früh gehen muss.

RIP

Ronny Wolf
02-02-2011, 15:55
Er war auf jeden Fall jemand, der sehr viele Informationen veröffentlicht hat. Auch wenn einiges davon kontrovers betrachtet werden kann, ist es dennoch ein Verlust für die Kampfkunstwelt.

R.I.P.

Bill
03-02-2011, 21:09
Erle war außergewöhnlich. Ist sein Ablebegrund bekannt?

Einige Infos zu Erle:

Born in 1949 in a small mining village about 50 miles south of Sydney in New South Wales Australia....

Quelle:
Erle Montaigue 1966 (http://www.taijiworld.com/about_me/about_me.htm)

Ronny Wolf
04-02-2011, 09:50
Erle war außergewöhnlich. Ist sein Ablebegrund bekannt?


Ich habe nur einen Kommantar von Eli Montaigue dazu gelesen:




Erle Montaigue
(Master Degree, China) 1949-2011

Only the good die young

So Dad had no chance!

As most of you know he had diabetes, and was controlling it with Diet and his training. And doing a bloody good job! As anyone who trained with him would tell you, how much energy he had, and how fit he was, no one could hit as hard as him!

Mum Ben Kathleen and I were all with him, I’m so glad I was here, as I live in Swansea now about an hour away.

We had just had a band practice the night before, and he was working on a song with Kathleen in the morning. Then I had what turned out to be my last lesson from him only about an hour before he left.

He was fighting fit, and had just ran up the road to catch up to Mum Kathleen and I walking the dogs, a few minutes after we were all walking back down and he just said “hold me” As he sat down on the road, he was out in only a couple of seconds. I sprinted back to the house to get his diabetic kit, and Kathleen to the house near us to get some sugar. Ben was down at his house only 1/4 of a mile away, so Kathleen called him and he ran up.
When he got there we’d already started CPR, the paramedics got there in a helicopter, we were trying for about 15 minute, then the paramedics for another 20 or 30. I was pushing all the points I could think of, and even tried the old Pen through the foot trick!
The paramedics gave me a very strange look! Haha! But as it happened it was a clogged artery
that caused the heart attack, so nothing would have worked.

But he got his wish, never to get old and to go out with a bang.
He didn’t suffer at all, and was in his prime

He will be Cremated at about 2pm on the 3rd of February UK time.

We’re doing a concert for him in a few weeks, as he wouldn’t have wanted a funeral, he never liked funerals. This will be in Llandovery for all those who knew him around here, as they knew him for his music more so than the Taiji. But of course any close personal students of his are welcome to come to that as well.
I’ll be doing a special training session on the Sunday of my March Camp, the 13th, for everyone who can make it. And each seminar and camp this year will be for him, I’ll be taking all his classes. Including the USA seminar and Summer camp. So that way everyone should have a chance to join in and say a big thank you to him.

Dad was the closest person in the world to me, as you all know.
Up until February 2010 I lived with him, and trained with him nearly every day, and even after I moved into my own house I still saw him for two or three days a week. And traveled with him to every workshop he did.

We’re all staying strong and getting on with life, Kathleen handed me his favorite jacket just before I left to go to teach the other day, we all broke down. It’s mine to wear for him now, as his footsteps will continue in me now. I’ll never fill his shoes, as he’s always had bigger feet than me, so the Jacket it is! It’s the big bear like jacket that we use to hide in when he’d give us a hug when we were kids.
I will never try to be Dad, but to just be me, and take on what he’s left to me.
With Ben at my side, and the help of my family and fellow instructors.

There has been some talk about what will happen to the WTBA now he’s gone.
I know I am only 24 years old, and would never make a claim to be of the same level as dad, or call myself a master etc. But he had already announced me as World leader of the WTBA, so it’s been run under me for the past year already, and I will keep it running as the great organization he founded.

I am so glad to have had all the time I have with him, a lot of people just see a young kid and say “he’s too young to lead an organization!” But I have grown up with Dad, spending nearly every day of my life with him.
His teachings will live on in me as he wanted. And his spirit in all of his children.

I don’t claim to know it all, but I do believe I have it all, somewhere in me, left there by Dad, I feel like he gave me everything I needed, he couldn’t have taught me anymore than he did.

I’m very lucky, as it was only with in the last year that I no longer felt the need to say “I’m not sure I’ll ask Dad”

As you know, we’ve never been into formality, I never had any grading from Dad, he just said to me last year before I went to teach in Canada, “Be confident my sonny, you know as much as me now in what we teach”

I don’t feel like I know everything, but took that as meaning I know everything I need to figure it out for myself now. Just didn’t think I’d actually have to so soon.

Thank you to everyone for all your words, and thanks to all the WTBA instructors who have given their support to me in running the WTBA.

Cremation 2pm, 3rd of February. This is only for family.
Concert will be announced
First and main thank you training session to Dad at my March camp 2pm till 3pm on the 13th, then those attending camp will continue with course.

I look forward to seeing everyone at some point in the year at one of the workshops.
There will be a special moment at every workshop and camp to say thank you to Dad.
Everyone can say this in there own way, but for me it will be for everyone to go through the YLC form together. Then to beat the shit out of some bags! And then each other in Push Hands!
Dad and my closest moments were in beating the shit out of each other!

Love to all…

Eli Montaigue
(Head of the WTBA)

ikusagei
03-09-2011, 14:22
Das ist ja völlig an mir vorbeigegangen. Erle ist und war einer DER Menschen, der dich mitreißen konnte, ohne die sonst so üblichen Allüren gehabt zu haben. Ich kann nur sagen, dass er für mich einer der wichtigsten Personen (Kampfkunst)war und ist. Jede gestellte frage wurde von ihm auf seine ganz persönliche und liebevolle Art beantwortet. Er war wie ein Lexikon und das schöne an ihm war seine Vielseitigkeit und sein liebevoller Umgang mit Leuten die etwas lernen wollten. Bei seinen Lehrvideos hat mich eines immer beeindruckt, die Art und Weise wie er im Einklang mit der Natur war und wie begeisterungsfähig er für die "kleinen Dinge" im Leben war. Seine Art zu unterrichten ist vergleichbar mit der Begeisterung von „Krokodiljäger“ Steve Irwin (Crocodile Hunter)der ja leider auch viel zu früh von uns gegangen ist. Ich wünsche Eli, dass er in die Fußstapfen seines Vaters hineinwachsen kann. Keine leichte Aufgabe.
Erle wird mir sehr fehlen.

scarabe
05-09-2011, 20:54
in diesem Jahr sind viele plötzlich gegangen, wer weiß, welche Aufgaben sie wo auch immer jetzt vor sich haben....
Wenigstens hat er nicht leiden müssen, ich hätte nichts dagegen, eines Tages auf ähnliche Weise abzutreten.
Alles Gute wo immer er jetzt ist und es ist jetzt an uns, nicht die Asche zu hüten, sondern den Funken zu bewahren!

Rhodos
06-09-2011, 09:09
Schön gesagt. Die Schüler sollen ja alle irgendwann besser als der Meister werden. Wer weiß ? :)

opendoor
06-09-2011, 16:27
..Ist sein Ablebegrund bekannt?

Diabetes soweit ich gehört habe.

Richard22
27-10-2011, 11:23
Mein Beileid an die Familie.

Erle war ein Freigeist und Querdenker.

Fechtergruß