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Thursday, July 15, 2004
Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos
From Daily Kos' partial transcript of a video (link to REAL stream) of Seymour Hersh speaking at an ACLU event. He says the US government has videotapes of children being raped at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
" Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."
Link (via Warren). There's also a piece worth reading in this week's Newsweek about new allegations of rape and sexual torture at Abu Ghraib. Feature includes details on the identities of the Iraqi prisoners shown in those widely-circulated photographs -- including Satar Jabar (charged with carjacking, not terrorism), whose iconic hooded figure with wires attached is derisively described by many Iraqis as the "Statue of Liberty." Link
Update: Geraldine Sealey at Salon on Hersh's remarks:
After Donald Rumsfeld testified on the Hill about Abu Ghraib in May, there was talk of more photos and video in the Pentagon's custody more horrific than anything made public so far. "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse," Rumsfeld said. Since then, the Washington Post has disclosed some new details and images of abuse at the prison. But if Seymour Hersh is right, it all gets much worse. (...)
Notes from a similar speech Hersh gave in Chicago in June were posted on Brad DeLong's blog. Rick Pearlstein, who watched the speech, wrote: "[Hersh] said that after he broke Abu Ghraib people are coming out of the woodwork to tell him this stuff. He said he had seen all the Abu Ghraib pictures. He said, 'You haven't begun to see evil...' then trailed off. He said, 'horrible things done to children of women prisoners, as the cameras run.' He looked frightened."
There are several questions here: Has Hersh actually seen the video he described to the ACLU, and why hasn't he written about it yet? Will he be forced to elaborate in more public venues now that these two speeches are getting so much attention, at least in the blogosphere? And who else has seen the video, if it exists -- will journalists see and report on it? did senators see these images when they had their closed-door sessions with the Abu Ghraib evidence? -- and what is being done about it?
Quelle: http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/15/hersh_children_raped.html
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Hersh: Vergewaltigung von Kindern und Frauen in Abu Ghraib
Auf einer Rede am 7. Juli 2004 vor den Mitgliedern des American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) hat der amerikanische Journalist Seymour Hersh berichtet, dass das Pentagon Videos besitze, in denen die systematische Vergewaltigung von kleinen Jungs und Frauen dokumentiert sei. Am schlimmsten seien dabei die Schreie der gequälten Kinder.
Von Hershs Rede wurde ein Video (RealMedia)aufgenommen und ins Netz gestellt. Diverse prominente Weblogs wie Daily Kos, EdCon und Brad DeLong haben unterschiedliche Auszüge daraus transkribiert und veröffentlicht. Die Beschreibungen sind erschütternd.
Hersh hatte den Skandal um die systematischen Folterungen irakischer Gefangener durch die amerikanischen Armee im Irak und die Hintergründe aufgedeckt.
Wann werden endlich Bush, Rumsfeld & Rice dafür international zur Rechenschaft gezogen und verurteit? Wann hört endlich dieser Albtraum auf?
Quelle: http://jimmiz.blogg.de/eintrag.php?id=493
Oder:
Were children raped at Abu Ghraib?
06:32 JST » Warblogging
Boing Boing
Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos
From Daily Kos' partial transcript of a video (link to stream) of Seymour Hersh speaking at an ACLU event. According to this transcript, Hersh says the US government has videotapes of children being raped at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
"The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out... a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."
Link (via Warren).
There's also a piece worth reading in this week's Newsweek about new allegations of rape and sexual torture at Abu Ghraib. Feature includes details on the identities of the Iraqi prisoners shown in those widely-circulated photographs -- including Satar Jabar (charged with carjacking, not terrorism), whose iconic hooded figure with wires attached is derisively described by many Iraqis as the "Statue of Liberty." Link
Ted Turner also mentioned something about sodomy at Abu Ghraib last night, I think. I wonder if this is what he was talking about.
Quelle: http://joi.ito.com/archives/2004/07/16/were_children_raped_at_abu_ghraib.html
Thursday, July 15, 2004
Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos
From Daily Kos' partial transcript of a video (link to REAL stream) of Seymour Hersh speaking at an ACLU event. He says the US government has videotapes of children being raped at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
" Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."
Link (via Warren). There's also a piece worth reading in this week's Newsweek about new allegations of rape and sexual torture at Abu Ghraib. Feature includes details on the identities of the Iraqi prisoners shown in those widely-circulated photographs -- including Satar Jabar (charged with carjacking, not terrorism), whose iconic hooded figure with wires attached is derisively described by many Iraqis as the "Statue of Liberty." Link
Update: Geraldine Sealey at Salon on Hersh's remarks:
After Donald Rumsfeld testified on the Hill about Abu Ghraib in May, there was talk of more photos and video in the Pentagon's custody more horrific than anything made public so far. "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse," Rumsfeld said. Since then, the Washington Post has disclosed some new details and images of abuse at the prison. But if Seymour Hersh is right, it all gets much worse. (...)
Notes from a similar speech Hersh gave in Chicago in June were posted on Brad DeLong's blog. Rick Pearlstein, who watched the speech, wrote: "[Hersh] said that after he broke Abu Ghraib people are coming out of the woodwork to tell him this stuff. He said he had seen all the Abu Ghraib pictures. He said, 'You haven't begun to see evil...' then trailed off. He said, 'horrible things done to children of women prisoners, as the cameras run.' He looked frightened."
There are several questions here: Has Hersh actually seen the video he described to the ACLU, and why hasn't he written about it yet? Will he be forced to elaborate in more public venues now that these two speeches are getting so much attention, at least in the blogosphere? And who else has seen the video, if it exists -- will journalists see and report on it? did senators see these images when they had their closed-door sessions with the Abu Ghraib evidence? -- and what is being done about it?
Quelle: http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/15/hersh_children_raped.html
Oder:
Hersh: Vergewaltigung von Kindern und Frauen in Abu Ghraib
Auf einer Rede am 7. Juli 2004 vor den Mitgliedern des American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) hat der amerikanische Journalist Seymour Hersh berichtet, dass das Pentagon Videos besitze, in denen die systematische Vergewaltigung von kleinen Jungs und Frauen dokumentiert sei. Am schlimmsten seien dabei die Schreie der gequälten Kinder.
Von Hershs Rede wurde ein Video (RealMedia)aufgenommen und ins Netz gestellt. Diverse prominente Weblogs wie Daily Kos, EdCon und Brad DeLong haben unterschiedliche Auszüge daraus transkribiert und veröffentlicht. Die Beschreibungen sind erschütternd.
Hersh hatte den Skandal um die systematischen Folterungen irakischer Gefangener durch die amerikanischen Armee im Irak und die Hintergründe aufgedeckt.
Wann werden endlich Bush, Rumsfeld & Rice dafür international zur Rechenschaft gezogen und verurteit? Wann hört endlich dieser Albtraum auf?
Quelle: http://jimmiz.blogg.de/eintrag.php?id=493
Oder:
Were children raped at Abu Ghraib?
06:32 JST » Warblogging
Boing Boing
Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos
From Daily Kos' partial transcript of a video (link to stream) of Seymour Hersh speaking at an ACLU event. According to this transcript, Hersh says the US government has videotapes of children being raped at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
"The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out... a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."
Link (via Warren).
There's also a piece worth reading in this week's Newsweek about new allegations of rape and sexual torture at Abu Ghraib. Feature includes details on the identities of the Iraqi prisoners shown in those widely-circulated photographs -- including Satar Jabar (charged with carjacking, not terrorism), whose iconic hooded figure with wires attached is derisively described by many Iraqis as the "Statue of Liberty." Link
Ted Turner also mentioned something about sodomy at Abu Ghraib last night, I think. I wonder if this is what he was talking about.
Quelle: http://joi.ito.com/archives/2004/07/16/were_children_raped_at_abu_ghraib.html