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Nenose
16-07-2007, 19:25
Politicians, religious leaders and senior police officers have condemned the staging of Scotland's first major cage fighting event.
More than 4,000 people are expected to go to the event near Glasgow next month to watch contestants in a hybrid of boxing, wrestling and martial arts.

The Cage Wars event has been described as barbaric and unwelcome in an area plagued by violence.

Promoters denied it was violent and said it involved trained athletes.

In cage fighting events, contestants are allowed to punch, kick, wrestle, knee and elbow each other into submission.

It is based on the sport of mixed martial arts and its promoters said it was far safer than activities such as boxing and rugby.

Billboards in Glasgow have been advertising the fights, which allow children to attend accompanied by adults.

There is a fine line between what some people would describe as sport and others would describe as violence

Det Ch Supt John Carnochan

Det Ch Supt John Carnochan, head of the Violence Reduction Unit based at Strathclyde Police, told the BBC Scotland news website he had concerns about the event.

He said: "While I do not claim to have a clear understanding of what is involved in cage fighting, I do know there is a fine line between what some people would describe as sport and others would describe as violence.

"The idea that people are prepared to pay to see this kind of activity is concerning.

"More concerning is why any parent would take their child to witness such a thing."

Morag Mylne, the convener of the Church of Scotland's Church and Society Council, said: "From what I know about cage fighting, it does appear to be a fairly grotesque and unsporting spectacle."

A spokesman for Renfrewshire Council said the public entertainment licence for Braehead covered the cage fighting event.

'Social violence'

Glasgow list MSP Sandra White called on the Scottish Executive to look at the licensing laws for allowing cage fighting to be staged as "public entertainment".

"This is going back to the days of gladiators," she said. "I don't find it acceptable in this day and age and certainly don't see it as entertainment."

Scottish Conservative justice spokesman and Glasgow MSP Bill Aitken said the event was unwelcome in a city which is trying to reduce its level of violence.

"This is something Glasgow could do without," he said. "There's a difference between sport and brutality."

But Jonny Burrows, Cage Wars event producer, said those condemning the sport had no understanding of what was involved.


Fighting takes place in an octagonal cage

"This is the oldest competitive sport in the world with an incredibly high safety record," he said.

"It also involves some of the most competitive athletes in the world.

"The guys who take part in this work very, very hard. They train as professional athletes.

"This is not some kind of street brawl. Fighters are able to submit like in Judo or the referee can step in."

Mr Burrows said linking sport with social violence was "tenuous in the least".

Tickets for the event - which is held in an 18ft octagonal cage - cost up to £45.

The events have time limited rounds, weight classes and rules that do not allow head butting, eye gouging and fish hooking.

Fighters also get to wear protective gloves.

A recent similar Ultimate Fighting Championship event in Manchester attracted a crowd of 14,000, including Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand and Girls Aloud.

In the US, cage fighting is a massive industry supporting an industry with an annual turnover of $5bn, and top fighters who earn $1m a fight.

It claims to have an audience of 300 million viewers in 130 countries.



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blueray
16-07-2007, 20:35
Wer verdient den bitteschön 1m$ pro Kampf?

*Axl*
16-07-2007, 21:27
Ich denke die Promoter sollten in Ländern wo MMA noch nicht wirklich etabliert ist, Namen wie "Cage Wars" und was weis ich nicht alles einfach nicht verwenden, denn das zieht doch die Schlechtreder magisch an sowas. Logo die Fans finden es so besser, aber ich denke das etwas "dezentere" Namen zu Anfang den sportlichen Aspekt der Sache nicht so ganz in den Hintergrund drücken würden, wie das die heftigeren Titel tun. Wisst ihr wie ich meine?! Das es halt nicht nach gemetzel im Käfig klingt, sondern nach Sport

Dudeplanet
17-07-2007, 11:04
Da muss ich Dir zustimmen. Letztlich ist es sicher so, dass sich ein großer Teil des Publikums überall einfach an einer Prügelei ergötzt, während nur wenige den technischen Hintergrund sehen. Diese Leute werden eben von dem sicher absichtlich zweilichtig gehaltenen Image dre ein oder anderen Promotion angelockt.
Wenn bei einem sportlichen Wettkampf von "War" und bei den Sportlern von "Warrior" die Rede ist, füttert dies nur die Skeptiker mit Kritikpunkten.
Was weiterhin auffällig ist, ist das jeder Veranstalter den Sicherheitsaspekt immer wieder überstrapaziert. Jedoch darum geht es den Kritikern eigentlich nicht. Vielmehr ist es oft die Zurschaustellung von Gewalt die kritisiert wird. Und gerade in den unbekannteren, schlecht besetzten Ligen ist dies auch oft dre Fall. Ich habe gestern Cage Rage gesehen. Viele Kämpfe waren einfach unterklassig. Es gab zahlreich Anspielungen (nicht nur den Titel=Käfig Wut) im Sinne einer gewalttätigen Veranstaltung im Gegensatz zu einem Sportevent.

Ich denke, dass man sich mit einer solchen Taktik längerfristig selbst im Wege steht.

BJJ Fighter
17-07-2007, 13:28
Wer verdient den bitteschön 1m$ pro Kampf?

Akebono, Royce Gracie- und die top fighter zusammengenommen mit den Werbeeinnahmen bzw. ppv Beteiligungen ebenfalls.

Takeda Shingen
19-07-2007, 01:14
Wer verdient den bitteschön 1m$ pro Kampf?
in der ufc kriegt tito mit seinem PPV bonus über 1 millionen... und das ganz ohne die sponsoren.

in japan bekamen yoshida und ogawa für ihren kampf gegeneinander zusammengerechnet über 3-4 millionen.

blueray
19-07-2007, 17:56
Danke für die Antworten. Ist ja erstaunlich wie die Free Fight Szene wächst.