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websensei
19-11-2007, 13:27
Da in nem anderem Subforum jemand nach den Ergebnissen zum UFC 78 Event gefragt hat, poste ich diese einfach mal hier:
Vorkämpfe
-Akihiro Gono besiegte Tamdan McCrory via Submission in der zweiten Runde
-Marcus Aurelio besiegte Luke Caudillo via TKO in der ersten Runde
-Joe Lauzon besiegte Jason Reinhardt via Submission in der ersten Runde
-Thiago Alves besiegte Chris Lytle via TKO nach zwei Runden
Hauptkämpfe
-Frank Edgar besiegte Spencer Fisher via Unanimous Decision
-Ed Herman besiegte Joe Doerksen via KO in der dritten Runde
-Karo Parisyan besiegte Ryo Chonan via Unanimous Decision
-Thiago Silva besiegte Houston Alexander via TKO in der ersten Runde
-Rashad Evans besiegte Michael Bisping via Split Decision
Quelle: Ground & Pound - Deutschlands Kampfsportportal Nr. 1 - Home (http://groundandpound.de)
Was ich sagen kann ist, das der Kampf Evans vs. Bisping haette wieder unentschieden ausfallen sollen.
Wie die Richter wieder gepunktet haben (Split decision) ist mir unklar.
Ich haette es auf jeden fall unentschieden rausbekommen.
Denn jeder Takedown von Evans wurde erfolgreich reversed. Und keiner der Fighter hat jetzt uebermaessig treffer gelandet. Zumindest der eine nicht mehr als der andere...
Huston vs. Alves
ging genauso zu ende wie ich es mir gedacht hab. Alves wins. Muss aber ehrlich gestehen, das ich doch von Alexander mehr erwartet habe als er dann gemacht hat.
Das er den Clinch und den Takedown gesucht hat fand ich super. Denke aber trotzdem er haette seine Heavy Hands mehr einsetzen muessen.
Das wars dann mit seiner erflogsserie. Ich schreibe ihn aber deswegen keinesfalls ab.
danke für die ergebnisse
denke silva hätt houston auch im stand paroly bieten können.
technisch ist er raffinierter.
lauzon fand ich hammer. hab den noch nie gesehen......
wow, ein neus fireball-kid.
chonan fand ich besser als im vorfeld angenommen. dachte der geht ganz unter
gegen pary. das sie immer hervorgehoben das chonan mal gegen anderson silva
gewonnen hat, fand ich peinlich..... die den kampf kennen, wissen das silva den ganzen match krass dominiert hat - und chonan ne lucky-submission gelandet hat (wens sowas überhaupt gibt :-)))))) aber trotzdem sah chonan noch nie so körperlich fit. aber nachdem loss weiss ich nicht ob der noch viele chance kriegt in der ufc.
mit all den starken kämpfern am start. finds cool das soviele ultimate fighter am start sind.....
viele junge, neue gesichter und die ganzen pride-kämpfer die auch im pot sind!!!
schon sehr cool!
evans fand ich verdienter sieger (hab auch auf ihn gewettet :-)).... klar wäre ein unentschieden auch okay gewesen nur kann man das bei nem hauptkampf schlecht machen. vorallem wenn beide 15-0-0 geschweige den 15-0-1 als rekord haben. müssten ja gleich nochmals in ring.....
darum ging die split decision wohl in ordnung.
peace yo!!!!! :-)
Ich gebe Dir schon recht bezueglich das es OK ist.
Meiner Meinung nach war aber der Kampf ziemlich gleich.
Wie gesagt, meiner Meinung nach...
Es haette Klarheit geschaffen werden muessen in dem Kampf. ;)
Aber jetzt schreit ja foermlich alles nach einem Rematch.
Yeah! dann macht evans klaren tisch.....!!!!!
:-)
Yeah! dann macht evans klaren tisch.....!!!!!
:-)
Das koennte sein.
;)
DieKlette
19-11-2007, 22:02
Puuuuhhh, ich fand' die UFC im großen und ganzen diesmal tatsächlich etwas langweilig und bin enttäuscht. Kann aber auch an mir gelegen haben, ich war relativ müde beim schauen.
Der Dezember verspricht mit Hughes vs Serra, Lidell vs Silva und Sokoudju allerdings dafür zu entschädigen. Wer weiß.
Was ich sagen kann ist, das der Kampf Evans vs. Bisping haette wieder unentschieden ausfallen sollen.
Wie die Richter wieder gepunktet haben (Split decision) ist mir unklar.
Ich haette es auf jeden fall unentschieden rausbekommen.
nach dem system der ufc (10 point must) gibt es kein unentschieden,
wenn der schiedsrichter keinen punkt abzieht (wie bei Tito vs. rashad wegen greifen des käfigs).
die drei kampfrichter können gar nicht auf unentschieden erkennen.
ansonsten eine langweilige vorstellung, aber mein geld war gut angelegt :)
nach dem system der ufc (10 point must) gibt es kein unentschieden,
wenn der schiedsrichter keinen punkt abzieht (wie bei Tito vs. rashad wegen greifen des käfigs).
die drei kampfrichter können gar nicht auf unentschieden erkennen.
ansonsten eine langweilige vorstellung, aber mein geld war gut angelegt :)
Ja stimmt mit dem 10 Pointsystem.
Ist halt shit aber was soll man machen.
Ich faende ne sudden victory round viel interessanter :D
weiss nicht ob ich wirklich noch so ne runde sehen wollte
:-)
peace yo!!!!!
Dudeplanet
20-11-2007, 13:17
nach dem system der ufc (10 point must) gibt es kein unentschieden
Falsch. Es müsste nicht immer 10-9 sein. Das sieht das System gar nicht vor. Die Judges sind einfach zu blöde.:mad:
Falsch. Es müsste nicht immer 10-9 sein. Das sieht das System gar nicht vor. Die Judges sind einfach zu blöde.:mad:
ja find ich auch.
Und die neuen Refs sind echt shit...
Aber zumindest brechen sie die Kaempfe eher ab
warum sind die neuen shit?
und was ist mit big john mc carthy?
warum sind die neuen shit?
und was ist mit big john mc carthy?
weil die ziemlich komisch aussehen...
Ich denke das hat mal wieder mit States zu tun, und das die Anderen keine Lizenz fuer New Jersey hatten...
ja fand auch das die ulkig aussahen, man hat sich halt
schon so an die anderen gewöhnt
aber carthy is nicht weg vom fenster? bitte, bitte, bitte
DieKlette
20-11-2007, 16:02
aber carthy is nicht weg vom fenster? bitte, bitte, bitte
Natürlich nicht. McCarthy übrigens.
Dudeplanet
20-11-2007, 20:14
Lest ihr eigentlich die "Minute by Minute"-Artikel aufSherdog.com? (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=10038)
Geniale Sache!:rotfltota
As if bad weather and attitudinal neighbors weren't enough, Northeastern fans of the Ultimate Fighting Championship suffered further indignities with UFC 78: Validation, the latest in a string of woefully mediocre Atlantic Coast events.
At this rate, the UFC's first show at Madison Square Garden will be headlined by a taped replay of Ken Shamrock (Pictures)-Dan Severn (Pictures) II.
For those of you who passed up the show in favor of more exciting activities -- like sleeping, or perhaps post-bar run vomiting -- consider skimming this lowlight reel. Factually irresponsible coverage, after all, is what the Internet was made for.
9:55 p.m. Moments before the show begins, customers are treated to a pre-fight barker program that tries desperately to attach meaning to the main event.
Struggling to keep a straight face, Dana White re-asserts that the winner of Rashad Evans (Pictures) and Michael Bisping (Pictures) will be a top-five light heavyweight. I can immediately think of 10 205 pounders that have accomplished more than Evans or Bisping, but I'll go along. Who can you trust if not a promoter?
10:03 p.m. We're inside the freshly constructed Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. According to Wikipedia, Newark is the birthplace of Marvin Hagler, which is cool, and Ian Ziering, which is really not very cool at all.
10:04 p.m. "Bisping was rude at the weigh-ins," observes color commentator Joe Rogan. That animal!
10:05 p.m. Viewers are invited to contribute to a cell phone poll to gauge predictions for the somnolent main event. Thirty percent vote Bisping, 42 percent vote Evans and 28 percent are curious why an episode of "The Ultimate Fighter" is costing them $40.
10:06 p.m. "Houston Alexander (Pictures) is hoping to validate his meteoric rise," says a cliché-spouting Goldberg, the string on his back apparently stuck.
10:08 p.m. Frankie "the Answer" Edgar versus Spencer Fisher (Pictures) is coming up. Edgar is 7-0 and a hometown Jersey boy, which means he'll have approximately 14,000 more friends in the building than Fisher.
10:14 p.m. The Tale of the Tape is brought to you by Xyience, a company alleged to peddle tainted supplements and stiff fighters on sponsorship wages. One can imagine Larry Merchant having something to say about that, which is precisely why you'll never see the UFC on HBO.
10:16 p.m. Edgar is aggressive, scoring two takedowns and landing elbows. Fisher appears overwhelmed.
10:18 p.m. "No pun intended, but what's the answer for Edgar?" says Goldberg, who knows damn well that every pun of his is intended.
10:20 p.m. Round one ends. You could make the case it was 10-8 Edgar. Fisher mounted no offense whatsoever.
10:21 p.m. Fisher's corner helpfully advises him to continue the fight in another town.
10:22 p.m. Round two. Edgar gets a takedown. And another. And another.
10:27 p.m. Round two ends. Another 10-8 performance from Edgar?
10:31 p.m. Round three sees takedown No. 8. There have been more tackles in this fight than the 1992 Olympic Trials.
10:33 p.m. Fight's over. Edgar wins a decision in a workmanlike performance. One judge, seeing at least one of the rounds 10-8, scores it 30-26.
Another judge, Jersey-based, wrote "awesome" in the scoring box for Edgar and "sucks" in the box for Fisher, reinforcing the commission's need to screen officials better.
10:36 p.m. "Only 37 days until Christmas," threatens Goldberg, who urges viewers to buy UFC junk collectibles on ufcstore.com.
I was in a sporting goods store recently and caught sight of an Everlast heavy bag emblazoned with the Ultimate logo; at $150, it was at a 100 percent markup from a standard-issue bag. Capitalism at its finest.
10:37 p.m. Trainer "Juanito Ibarra is sitting right next to Quinton Jackson (Pictures)," says Goldberg. Only it's not Juanito at all, but a random someone who might share Ibarra's Mexican heritage. Oops.
10:40 p.m. Continuing the tradition of rematches no one asked for (Horn-Sonnen, Eastman-Jackson, Herring-Nogueira, etc.), it's time for the Ed Herman (Pictures)-Joe Doerksen (Pictures) return engagement. (In fairness, Doerksen is a late replacement for the easily stricken David Terrell (Pictures).)
"Now I'm a full-grown man, so he's going to have his hands a little more full," says Herman, in a rather unfortunate choice of words.
10:44 p.m. Herman enters the arena sporting huge headphones, the kind normally seen on airline workers directing 747s through runways. He should've loaned them to Fisher.
10:47 p.m. Doerksen has "39 wins and 10 losses … he's got 49 victories," says Rogan, who then takes another lick of a Cane toad's belly.
10:49 p.m. The fight opens with a big exchange; Herman looks good putting combos together and mixing up his strikes.
10:52 p.m. Round one expires. An easy nod for Herman's aggression.
10:56 p.m. The fighters trade back mount in the most compelling scramble of the night.
10:58 p.m. Out of nowhere, Doerksen gets a tight triangle-armbar combination at the bell. Herman returns to his corner and listens to some salient advice from the numerous Tweety Birds surrounding his head.
11:00 p.m. Herman connects early in round three for the KO, making that almost-submission of Doerksen's all the more poignant.
11:03 p.m. Removing his mouthpiece, Herman displays a huge string of drool to the crowd, Alien Queen style. The crowd jeers in repulsion; even Herman seems a little grossed out.
11:05 p.m. We're given a preview of Forrest Griffin (Pictures)'s upcoming guest spot on "Law and Order." In a De Niro-esque bit of chameleon acting, Griffin will play a cage fighter.
How times have changed: used to be that the nadir of MMA mainstream appearances was a slot on "Walker, Texas Ranger," where Chuck Norris would deliver a lecture on morally responsible behavior shortly before kicking you in the groin.
11:08 p.m. Ryo Chonan (Pictures) wears a mask to the ring. That's considerate of him.
11:10 p.m. Karo Parisyan (Pictures) comes out to "Bad to the Bone," a recent top-10 hit in Armenia.
11:19 p.m. Five minutes in. Parisyan gets the nod for round one by staying busy and maintaining top position, but it's far from the spectacle some were predicting.
11:22 p.m. Round two: Parisyan catches a kick for a takedown, but Chonan pops right back up.
11:24 p.m. Another takedown by Karo. Elbows.
11:27 p.m. Groin kick by Karo, but no lecture.
11:29 p.m. Mount by Karo, but Ryo reverses. The crowd boos.
11:32 p.m. Fight's over. Karo nabs a 30-27 decision. He apologizes to matchmaker Joe Silva and, later, to the crowd for a lackluster performance.
I remain bummed that Karo's original opponent, judo animal Hector Lombard (Pictures), didn't make it. If it ever happens, I will pre-emptively declare it Fight of the Year.
11:35 p.m. Lightweight contender B.J. Penn (Pictures) is seen texting on his cell phone, presumably weighing in on Bisping-Evans.
11:38 p.m. Houston Alexander (Pictures)-Thiago Silva (Pictures) is up next. Rogan and Goldberg extort the virtues of Silva's jiu-jitsu and how Alexander will be tested.
11:42 p.m. Silva enters to Portuguese rap. The crowd, catching sight of the umpteenth ‘Silva' in the UFC, is distressed to see that he is neither black, possessed of a tattoo on his head or angrily crumpling up a note from David Terrell (Pictures)'s doctor.
11:46 p.m. Alexander enters. The man is a media profiler's dream: six kids, one donated kidney and a reformed break-dancer.
The crowd is behind him, eager to cling to the next invincible mauler now that Chuck Liddell (Pictures) has cooled. Rogan emphasizes Alexander's "power-lifting" physique and immense strength, which stopped being an asset in MMA right around 1995.
11:51 p.m. Haimov Watches sponsors the first round. This is getting a bit ridiculous.
11:52 p.m. Alexander bucks expectations by clinching with Silva. He scores a takedown, but Silva gets up and gets one of his own.
11:53 p.m. Silva gets mount. In the background, a ring official rubs his bacteria-infested eyes with a rubber-gloved hand. Super.
11:54 p.m. Big shots by Silva. Alexander slips into unconsciousness. "This ambulance brought to you by Xyience," chirps Goldberg.
11:56 p.m. Silva "slowed Alexander's meteoric rise," says Goldberg. I swear, he's doing it on purpose now.
12:00 a.m. Time for the main event of the evening. Give UFC chairs credit: It took a lot of effort to meet expectations set by the Paul Buentello-Andrei Arlovski Jersey headliner at UFC 55, but they've done it.
12:06 a.m. Evans strolls in looking relaxed and confident, which might be redundant. I have yet to see a fighter enter, look around, then run back into the locker room.
12:09 a.m. Bisping enters to a chorus of boos. A fan yells out that the American version of "The Office" is better than the U.K. incarnation; Bisping decks him.
12:15 a.m. "Both of youse touch gloves," says the Jersey ref.
12:15 a.m. The fight begins. Takedown by Evans, but he had to work for it, and Bisping pops right back up. I'm impressed, as I expected Evans' size and wrestling aptitude to keep him down fairly easily.
12:17 a.m. Bisping continues to elude the takedown, but both fighters are expending lots of energy in the struggle.
12:18 a.m. Evans finally gets him down, then moves to side-control.
12:20 a.m. Round one ends. Not a blowout, but Evans scored with takedowns.
12:21 a.m. Bisping charges out in round two. Evans hefts him up and gets a big slam, angling to crack one of Bisping's ribs in the process.
12:24 a.m. Back on the feet, Bisping comes forward. He gets a takedown at the buzzer. Close, but one could argue Bisping was busier.
12:30 a.m. Round three, and Evans is landing on the feet. It winds up being a close round that could go either way, though Evans finished the fight in a dominant position.
12:34 a.m. "Great f------ fight," says the erudite White. It's a split decision for Evans. Both men thank a laundry list of sponsors. I thought that was verboten in the UFC.
All told, it was a stolid night of fights, with talented performers canceling out one another. Sometimes athletes are just too skilled for their -- or our -- own good.
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Geniale Sache!:rotfltota
Na klar! Das meinte ich irgendwo. Der typ der es schribt ist super.
Vor allem beim Parisyan "He walked in on Bad to the Bone". That must be a top 10 hit now in Armania :D
Dudeplanet
21-11-2007, 07:54
Na klar! Das meinte ich irgendwo. Der typ der es schribt ist super.
Vor allem beim Parisyan "He walked in on Bad to the Bone". That must be a top 10 hit now in Armania :D
Ich find das am Besten.
"Now I'm a full-grown man, so he's going to have his hands a little more full," says Herman, in a rather unfortunate choice of words.:ups:
Karo wurde vor dem Kampf ja so für seine Entwicklung gelobt, vor allem was das Cardio angeht. Ich hatte jedoch den Eindruck das dies an dem Abend ganz und gar nich seine Stärke war und wirklich austrainiert sah er auch nicht aus. Wünsche ihm dennoch einen Titelkampf, verdient hätte er es imo mittlerweile.
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