John1974
06-03-2008, 23:12
Kann jemand mir da mal erklaeren was mit ein Half Pak Sao Da gemeint ist? Ab nr 23 sind da ein paar Trapping abfolgen.
Vielleicht hab ich das schon alles mal Trainiert aber hiess es anders......
BASIC TRAPPING PROGRESSION
OJKD METHOD
1966 PROGRESSION
1) Pak Sao Da
a) By reference point attachment
b) Bridging the gap to attachment
c) By feinting then bridging the gap to pak sao da by capturing
d) Pak sao da by capturing
i) In flight during attack
ii) In chambering position before attack
iii) In chambering position after attack
2) Types of Pak sao da
a) Gnoy da or O’ouy da
b) Loy da (two types)
i) Inside of wu sao
ii) Outside of wu sao
c) Jung da
d) Ha da
3) Pak sao da to Jik chung chuie
4) Pak sao da – Bong sao – Lop sao da with qua chuie or Sut sao (Fak sao) – Gum sao da
5) Pak sao da – Loy Pak sao da
6) Pak sao da – Chung chuie – Loy Pak sao da
7) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Pak sao da – Lop sao da - Pak sao da
8) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao with chung chuie - Pak sao da
9) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao da – right Sut sao (Fak sao) – Gum sao da
10) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Pak sao da – left Sut sao (Fak sao)
11) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao da – Pak sao da – left Sut sao da (Fak sao)
12) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao da – right Sut sao (Fak sao) – Cup sao da (Kao sao da)
13) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – gum sao da – Jang (elbow)
14) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Dum tek – Gum sao da - Jang (elbow)
15) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – rear hand Biu gee or rear chung chuie – Gum sao da to any type of follow up
16) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Jong tao (Headbutt) – Sut (knee) – Jang (Elbow) or Gum sao da (Vice versa)
17) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Sut (Knee) – Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow)
18) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Dum loy tek to knee – Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow)
19) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – with any combination of headbutt (Jong tao), punch (Chung chuie), knee (Sut), foot stomp (Dum tek), elbow (Jang), Finger jab (Biu gee), any palm strike (Jern), inside stomp kick (Loy dum tek), backhand knifehand (wisk hand), Sut sao / Fak sao etc.
20) Pak sao da – Go Jao sao da – Ha Jao sao da – Go Jao sao da – double Jut sao – rear hand Biu gee – Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow)
21) Pak sao da – Go Jao sao da – Ha Jao sao da – Go Jao sao da – double Jut sao - Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow) – to other combination routes
22) Pak sao da – Go Jao sao da – Ha Jao sao da – pak sao with qua chuie - to other combination routes by energy
23) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Kao sao da inside of lead arm
24) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Pak sao when parry hand passes – Pak Lop sao da
25) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Chung chuie after parry hand passes – Jut Pak sao da – Gum sao da
26) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Huen sao to rear hand Sut sao – gum sao da
27) Fake Pak sao da with delay – Chung chuie after parry hand passes – Jut Pak sao da – Gum sao da
28) Pak sao da – Gnoy Lop sao da – Pak sao da
29) Pak sao da - Gnoy Lop sao da – Loy Kao sao da
30) Gnoy woang pak sao da – Gnoy Lop sao da – Gnoy Lop sao da on the rear arm
31) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Chung chuie behind rear parry – Jut sao da – Gum sao da
32) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da - Chung chuie behind rear parry - Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Pak sao da
33) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da - Chung chuie behind rear parry - Chung chuie behind returning parry – Gum sao da – Fak sao da – Gum sao da
34) Choap chuie – Qua chuie – Lop sao with Qua chuie (Rear hand block)
35) Choap chuie – Qua chuie – Pak sao da – bong sao with Lop sao with Qua chuie or Fak sao (Sut sao) (for lead hand block)
36) Choap chuie – Qua chuie –Jao sao to all the basics in the Jao sao series
37) Choap chuie – Qua chuie –Gnoy Lop sao da – Pak sao da
38) Fake Choap chuie – Fake Qua chuie to :-
1. Juk tek (Ha, Jung, Go)
2. O’ou tek (Ha, Jung, Go)
3. Jik tek (Ha, Jung, Go)
4. Ha hou O’ou tek
5. Hou sut
6. Jung dum tek
7. Jun juk tek
8. Jun qua tek
9. Jun so tek
10. Jun o’ou tek
11. Jun jung dum tek
12. Jun jik tek
Numbers 1 to 12 are in the Jun Fan Gung Fu Chum Kiu series. The Jun fan Chum Kiu techniques are not to be mistaken for the Wing Chun Chum Kiu techniques. Jun Fan Chum Kiu techniques are “seeking the bridge” or attachment entering techniques or bridging the gap techniques.
Vielleicht hab ich das schon alles mal Trainiert aber hiess es anders......
BASIC TRAPPING PROGRESSION
OJKD METHOD
1966 PROGRESSION
1) Pak Sao Da
a) By reference point attachment
b) Bridging the gap to attachment
c) By feinting then bridging the gap to pak sao da by capturing
d) Pak sao da by capturing
i) In flight during attack
ii) In chambering position before attack
iii) In chambering position after attack
2) Types of Pak sao da
a) Gnoy da or O’ouy da
b) Loy da (two types)
i) Inside of wu sao
ii) Outside of wu sao
c) Jung da
d) Ha da
3) Pak sao da to Jik chung chuie
4) Pak sao da – Bong sao – Lop sao da with qua chuie or Sut sao (Fak sao) – Gum sao da
5) Pak sao da – Loy Pak sao da
6) Pak sao da – Chung chuie – Loy Pak sao da
7) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Pak sao da – Lop sao da - Pak sao da
8) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao with chung chuie - Pak sao da
9) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao da – right Sut sao (Fak sao) – Gum sao da
10) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Pak sao da – left Sut sao (Fak sao)
11) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao da – Pak sao da – left Sut sao da (Fak sao)
12) Pak sao da – Biu sao as wedge – Lop sao da – right Sut sao (Fak sao) – Cup sao da (Kao sao da)
13) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – gum sao da – Jang (elbow)
14) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Dum tek – Gum sao da - Jang (elbow)
15) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – rear hand Biu gee or rear chung chuie – Gum sao da to any type of follow up
16) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Jong tao (Headbutt) – Sut (knee) – Jang (Elbow) or Gum sao da (Vice versa)
17) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Sut (Knee) – Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow)
18) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – Dum loy tek to knee – Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow)
19) Pak sao da – Jao sao – double Jut Sao – with any combination of headbutt (Jong tao), punch (Chung chuie), knee (Sut), foot stomp (Dum tek), elbow (Jang), Finger jab (Biu gee), any palm strike (Jern), inside stomp kick (Loy dum tek), backhand knifehand (wisk hand), Sut sao / Fak sao etc.
20) Pak sao da – Go Jao sao da – Ha Jao sao da – Go Jao sao da – double Jut sao – rear hand Biu gee – Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow)
21) Pak sao da – Go Jao sao da – Ha Jao sao da – Go Jao sao da – double Jut sao - Gum sao da – Jang (Elbow) – to other combination routes
22) Pak sao da – Go Jao sao da – Ha Jao sao da – pak sao with qua chuie - to other combination routes by energy
23) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Kao sao da inside of lead arm
24) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Pak sao when parry hand passes – Pak Lop sao da
25) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Chung chuie after parry hand passes – Jut Pak sao da – Gum sao da
26) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Huen sao to rear hand Sut sao – gum sao da
27) Fake Pak sao da with delay – Chung chuie after parry hand passes – Jut Pak sao da – Gum sao da
28) Pak sao da – Gnoy Lop sao da – Pak sao da
29) Pak sao da - Gnoy Lop sao da – Loy Kao sao da
30) Gnoy woang pak sao da – Gnoy Lop sao da – Gnoy Lop sao da on the rear arm
31) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Chung chuie behind rear parry – Jut sao da – Gum sao da
32) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da - Chung chuie behind rear parry - Pak sao da – Lop sao da – Pak sao da
33) Half Pak sao da – Lop sao da - Chung chuie behind rear parry - Chung chuie behind returning parry – Gum sao da – Fak sao da – Gum sao da
34) Choap chuie – Qua chuie – Lop sao with Qua chuie (Rear hand block)
35) Choap chuie – Qua chuie – Pak sao da – bong sao with Lop sao with Qua chuie or Fak sao (Sut sao) (for lead hand block)
36) Choap chuie – Qua chuie –Jao sao to all the basics in the Jao sao series
37) Choap chuie – Qua chuie –Gnoy Lop sao da – Pak sao da
38) Fake Choap chuie – Fake Qua chuie to :-
1. Juk tek (Ha, Jung, Go)
2. O’ou tek (Ha, Jung, Go)
3. Jik tek (Ha, Jung, Go)
4. Ha hou O’ou tek
5. Hou sut
6. Jung dum tek
7. Jun juk tek
8. Jun qua tek
9. Jun so tek
10. Jun o’ou tek
11. Jun jung dum tek
12. Jun jik tek
Numbers 1 to 12 are in the Jun Fan Gung Fu Chum Kiu series. The Jun fan Chum Kiu techniques are not to be mistaken for the Wing Chun Chum Kiu techniques. Jun Fan Chum Kiu techniques are “seeking the bridge” or attachment entering techniques or bridging the gap techniques.